HOOPSWORLD
Grading The 2009 NBA Draft

By: Steve Kyler   Last Updated: 6/28/09 6:24 AM ET | 14015 times read
Increase Font Size
Decrease Font Size
Adjust font size:

The 2009 NBA Draft basically went as scripted. Most of the trades made were towards the bottom of the draft and the bulk of the players moved were fairly inconsequential. This was the first draft in recent memory where none of the top selection swapped hats and beyond the Timberwolves going guard all night, most teams went where they said they were going to go.

Here are the grades for each team, keep in mind the grades are based on whether a team #1 - improved, #2 - addressed real and pressing needs and #3 - could have taken a better option on the board. Receiving an A Grade in this class would be tough because most of these players are not starting caliber talents, meaning most don't solve real and pressing needs. 

ATLANTA HAWKS 
Round 1: Jeff Teague (19)
Round 2: Sergiy Gladyr (49)

Comments: The Hawks addressed their most glaring need and that was point guard - Teague could become a promising prospect, he has to gain some bulk and get into a serious development program but the Hawks got a quality player that could be a stud inside the next two years. This pick, compounded with the Jamal Crawford trade gives the Hawks more offensive punch in the back court, but whether Mike Bibby will want to re-sign still remains unclear and now may be a little more clouded as result of the trade and the draft pick. Gladyr is not going to play this year, he is a deferred pick that may not have a NBA career.

Grade: B+


BOSTON CELTICS
Round 1: None
Round 2: Lester Hudson (58)

Comments:  The Celtics got a nice scoring option. Hudson may not make the team because of the lack of roster spots but as a future asset, Hudson can flat out score. Hudson will likely get his chance in Summer League, and a strong showing in Orlando could go a long way towards cementing his future with the Celtics, but at 58 – it's smart to have your passport up-to-date.

Grade: B


CHARLOTTE BOBCATS
Round 1: Gerald Henderson (12)
Round 2: Derrick Brown (40, from the Nets and Thunder)

Comments: The Cats got two very "Larry Brown-friendly" players. Henderson is a great fit and could make Gerald Wallace somewhat expendable down the road. Getting Derrick Brown was something of a steal as well. The Cats really had a solid draft, now let's see if that helps the Bobcats improve?

Grade: B


CHICAGO BULLS
Round 1: James Johnson (16), Taj Gibson (26)
Round 2: None

Comments: The Bulls added two very solid options in the first round – Johnson could be a very good addition, especially with Derrick Rose running the show. Johnson played in a very up-tempo system at Wake Forest and could be a nice option off the bench. Gibson is more of a project and could pave the way for future trades, no offense to Taj, but its hard to imagine why Chicago would have passed on DeJuan Blair at 26.

Grade:  B


CLEVELAND CAVALIERS
Round 1: Christian Eyenga (30)
Round 2: Danny Green (46, from the Bulls), Emir Preldzic (57,  from the Cavs from the Magic and Thunder)

Comments:  Christian Eyenga and Emir Preldzic were not on the draft radar at all, so don't expect to see either in a Cavs' game any time soon, the best you can hope for is Summer League. Getting Danny Green in the 2nd round might be a solid pick up. It's going to be hard for him to crack the roster, but he is a far better pro-prospect than either of the Euros.

Grade: C-


DALLAS MAVERICKS
Round 1: Rodrigue Beaubois (25,  from the Thunder)
Round 2: Nick Calathes (45,  from the Wolves from the Sixers and Heat), Ahmad Nivins (56, from the Blazers)

Comments:  Beaubois got a lot of buzz throughout the draft process and the Mavericks have said he'll play this year. The kid was actually discovered by Magic reserve Mickael Pietrus, and is said to be a very good athlete. Ahmad Niven was a steal and could really help the Mavericks right away. Nick Calathes will not be part of the Mavericks roster this year. He may play summer league, but this was an investment for next year.

Grade: B+


DENVER NUGGETS
Round 1: Ty Lawson (18,  in trade from the Wolves)
Round 2: None

Comments: Talk about turning nothing into something. Put away the gun Mark Warkentien. The Nuggets got likely the best NBA-ready point guard of the bunch and got him for nothing. The Nuggets future is pretty bright and Lawson at #18 comes in much cheaper than a free agent would have been. Solid pick up by the Nuggets for a protected 2010 1st rounder they got by way of the Charlotte Bobcats. Genuinely turning nothing into something.

Grade: B+


DETROIT PISTONS
Round 1: Austin Daye (15)
Round 2: DaJuan Summers (35,  from the Timberwolves), Jonas Jerebko (39, from the Raptors)

Comments: The general vibe on this draft may not be good from a fan point of view, but the Pistons did very well in this draft. Daye is an all upside guy. He'll take some time to develop, so this is an investment pick. Getting DaJuan Summers and Jonas Jerebko in the 2nd round were good pickups. The Pistons did not impact their pending cap-space too significantly in the draft and they got nice players to show for it.

Grade: B-


GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS
Round 1: Stephen Curry (7)
Round 2: None

Comments:  It was hard not to take Stephen Curry, he fits the system too perfectly and despite rumors that Monta Ellis did not want a point guard, the Warriors didn't take one. Curry's camp did a good job selling Curry as a point guard, but team after team viewed him as an off-guard that can play point and now the Warriors have options. This was a solid pick and despite rumors of an additional transaction with Phoenix in the coming weeks both Don Nelson and GM Larry Riley have said Curry is not being traded. Nice draft pick.

Grade: B+


HOUSTON ROCKETS
Round 1: None
Round 2: Jermaine Taylor (32,  from the Wizards), Sergio Llull (34,  from the Nuggets), Chase Budinger (44,  from the Pistons)

Comments: Considering the Rockets had no draft picks, this was a decent return. Rumor is the Rockets spent about $6 million in cash to get these players. Jermaine Taylor is an exceptional talent, he can contribute right away. Sergio Llull is a quality point guard option and Chase Budinger might become something in Houston if he learns from Shane Battier. None of these contracts are going to impact the Rockets too significantly. This was a good piece of work by the Rockets to get quality options in the 2nd round.

Grade: C


INDIANA PACERS
Round 1: Tyler Hansbrough (13)
Round 2: A.J. Price (52, from the Mavericks)

Comments: Not sold Tyler was the best option on the board, but he is clearly a Larry Bird kind of player and if there is one market in the NBA where Tyler fits, it's Indiana. The Pacers addressed their toughness and there are a lot of players in Indiana that can help Tyler develop so this is not as bad a pick as some have made it sound. AJ Price in the 2nd round is a good pickup, teams were scared off by the aneurysm stories , but there is little doubt that Price can play and now the Pacers have some additional options if restricted free agent Jarrett Jack does not re-sign.

Grade: C


LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS
Round 1: Blake Griffin (1)
Round 2: None

Comments: This was a can't-miss selection. Blake is a special talent, now let's see what the Clips do with it. The biggest problem for Griffin is going to be getting the ball, when you consider Baron Davis, Eric Gordon, Al Thornton and Zach Randolph are all offensive players – the Big Dog may not see the ball as much as he needs to. A solid summer league will help that significantly.

Grade: A


LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Round 1: None
Round 2: Chinemelu Elonu (59)

Comments: Chinemelu Elonu? Yeah we thought that too when the pick was announced. Lets be real for a minute. The Lakers are not paying luxury tax on the 59th pick. This was clearly doing someone a favor. Elonu can now be marketed to international teams as World Champion Laker draft pick Chinemelu Elonu – that's about as close as he'll come to a Lakers' uniform outside of Summer League.

Grade:  D-


MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES
Round 1: Hasheem Thabeet (2), DeMarre Carroll (27)
Round 2: Sam Young (36)

Comments: The Grizzlies had a nice draft. They addressed needs, they got quality players that are proven at addressing those needs and in the end they had a very good draft. Thabeet will never be a star in this league, he can block shots, he can rebound and that is something the Grizz were awful at last season. Carroll is going to give them toughness and options at the four spot and Sam Young is a very good option to back up Rudy Gay. Not a hugely sexy draft, but a very functional draft for the Grizzlies who have a very-very full cupboard.

Grade: B+


MIAMI HEAT
Round 1: None
Round 2: Patrick Beverley (42,  from the Lakers from the Bulls), Robert Dozier (60, from the Cavaliers)

Comments: The HEAT have not been the best at drafting talent – Mario Chalmers aside, so in this case not sure how Patrick Beverly helps the team. Robert Dozier is a decent prospect, but the HEAT again did not help themselves in the draft. Lots of project pieces that may not have a future in Miami.

Grade: D-


MILWAUKEE BUCKS
Round 1: Brandon Jennings (10)
Round 2: Jodie Meeks (41)

Comments: The Bucks got two very nice players. Jennings could be a star and if there was one coach that can help him get there its Scott Skiles, now the question is will Brandon listen and learn? Jodie Meeks is a flat out scorer and him learning behind Michael Redd and possible Ramon Sessions – Jodie could not have landed in a better situation. Both players have some baggage which makes them perfect for the Bucks.

Grade: C+


MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES
Round 1: Ricky Rubio (5), Jonny Flynn (6), Wayne Ellington (28)
Round 2: Henk Norel (47, from the Heat)

Comments: There is no other way to say it – David Kahn dropped the ball. From what we are hearing, Rubio's camp was lukewarm to Minnesota from the jump, Kahn did a great last minute pitch and Rubio's people were getting comfortable with the idea. The 5th pick dropped and they said "OK, we'll make the best of it" – then ten minutes later they drafted Jonny Flynn torching the Rubio situation. It's not over, and there are still things to be resolved, but the initial thought process is – one of them has to be traded. The Wolves may have gotten their point guard of the future in Flynn, but that means Ricky has to go and while the media is in love with Rubio, most NBA team are not, meaning the Wolves may not get back the kind of future talent they could have drafted at #5. Wayne Ellington's selection at 28 was a great pickup but ultimately was lost in the discussion on Rubio and Flynn. Henk Norel may not play in Minnesota any time soon, but he's a good prospect. The Wolves did a good job getting talent, but the chaos they brought on themselves makes this draft a negative because it remains to be seen how this pans out. One thing seems clear as much as David Kahn thinks Flynn and Rubio would be "great together" neither players wants to see that happen.

Grade: C-


NEW JERSEY NETS
Round 1: Terrence Williams (11)
Round 2: None

Comments: Given that New Jersey also picked up Rafer Alston, Tony Battie and Courtney Lee in the Vince Carter deal with Orlando, the Nets had a good draft day. Word is the team could be For Sale and the Vince Carter move simply put a possible sale in motion – stay tuned for more as that develops. Terrence Williams is a good basketball player – it's the other stuff that has to be of concern in New Jersey. Overall the Nets did a decent job on draft day, they got rid of Vince Carter's long term contract – they picked up a solid player in Courtney Lee and drafted a defensive minded Williams – overall not a bad night for Jersey.

Grade: B-


NEW ORLEANS HORNETS
Round 1: Darren Collison (21)
Round 2: Marcus Thornton (43, from the HEAT from the Pacers)

Comments: Getting Collison and Thornton in the draft really improves the Hornets where they were weakest – help for Chris Paul. New Orleans has some solid options now, and both players are proven mature guys. These are not project guys that will need a year or two to develop. They can play tomorrow if needed. Very good moves by the Hornets.

Grade: B+


NEW YORK KNICKS
Round 1: Jordan Hill (8), Toney Douglas (29,  from the Lakers)
Round 2: None

Comments: The Knicks' fans boo'd Jordan Hill as he was selected, but he's going to be a solid addition for the Knicks, add in Toney Douglas late in the first and the Knicks may not have gotten the splashy Stephen Curry but they got two players that fit and fill needs. Overall the Knicks did a good job in this draft, now it will be interesting to see if they can get into the Ricky Rubio race and make this an interesting off-season.

Grade: B-


OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER
Round 1: James Harden (3), B.J. Mullens (24,  from the Dallas)
Round 2: Robert Vaden (54,  from the Thunder from the Spurs)

Comments: The Thunder came out of this draft with the guys they coveted from the jump. Harden solves an immediate need at the two guard spot, while Mullens gives them an upside face-up four man. Robert Vaden might be the best pure shooter in this class and the Thunder got him as a late second round pick. The Thunder had a lot of nice players before the draft, they added three more on Thursday. Solid draft for Sam Presti and The Thunder.

Grade: B+


ORLANDO MAGIC
Round 1: None
Round 2: None

Comments: The Magic made headlines nabbing Vince Carter and Ryan Anderson in a draft night deal with New Jersey. The Magic may have gotten a steal with the inclusion of Anderson. Carter may be more of an issue than people are open to admitting. Word is Dwight Howard was not as pleased with this move as you might think. Sources say he is concerned that the addition of Vince is going to further reduce his offensive touches and the move sent out Howard's close friend Courtney Lee. Throw in the notion that Hedo Turkoglu likely does not re-sign and two pieces Howard was very close too are replaced. The Magic may have upgraded talent wise but that chemistry the team often comments on may never be the same. The Magic improved the roster and did so at a nominal cost.

Grade:  INC – did not participate in the draft.


PHILADELPHIA 76ERS 
Round 1: Jrue Holiday (17)
Round 2: None

Comments: Holiday took a bit of a tumble as word filtered around that a minor shoulder issue surfaced during the MRI's at the Chicago Pre-Draft Combine. The nature of the issue is a minor separation that may at some point in the future require shoulder surgery – that compounded with Minnesota desire to draft every point guard in the class had Holiday on the board for the 76ers. Talk about a perfect fit. Holiday is a true point guard - don't base your opinions of him on his UCLA numbers as he was used mainly as the off-guard. The 76ers got a stud at 17 and don't be surprised if having Holiday makes the 76ers consider passing on Andre Miller and the $50 million he may be seeking this off-season. Word is the Blazers have eyes for Andre Miller, so getting say Steve Blake in return in a sign and trade deal would be smart for the 76ers. Nice draft by the Sixers.

Grade: B+


PHOENIX SUNS 
Round 1: Earl Clark (14)
Round 2: Taylor Griffin (48)

Comments: The Suns have admitted that the deal sending Shaquille O'Neal to Cleveland was entirely about money, but the selection of Earl Clark may be about trading Amr'e Stoudemire. While clearly not the power player Amr'e is, Clark could return the Suns to "fun and gun" and that suits his style of play. Taylor Griffin is no where near the player his brother is, but as a project pick that will likely see time in the NBADL, he does have some upside. Overall the Suns got a solid player at #14.

Grade: C+


PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS
Round 1: Victor Claver (22)
Round 2: Jeff Pendergraph (31,  from the Kings), Dante Cunningham (33,  from the Clippers), Patrick Mills (55, from the Nuggets)

Comments: Victor Claver??? Kevin Pritchard apparently took this draft off. The Blazers were active and made several moves, but at the end of the day the talent coming in is underwhelming to say the least. Claver is a very good shooter, but how he fits in Portland remains to be seen. Jeff Pendergraph is a reasonable prospect but does he even play in Portland? Cunningham and Mills are long shots to make the roster – so in the end the Trail Blazers' goal was to come away with two solid players – were Claver and Pendergraph really the best the Blazers could come up with? Consider guys still on the board at 22 - DeJuan Blair, Sam Young, Toney Douglas and Omri Casspi. We'd heard stories that top flight talent wouldn't work out for the team because of their depth, but come on, Kevin Pritchard and company are better than this right?

Grade: D-


SACRAMENTO KINGS
Round 1: Tyreke Evans (4), Omri Casspi (23)
Round 2: Jon Brockman (38, traded from the Blazers from the Knicks and Bulls

Comments: The Kings had a good draft – they came away with a Spanish point guard in Sergio Rodriquez in a deal with Portland, they get a great player in Tyreke Evans who can play both guard spots. Omri Casspi is tough as nails and will make them better on a lot of fronts and Jon Brockman is a serviceable big. While the Kings did not come away with Blake Griffin or a sexy megastar, they got three nice pieces. A they did a lot better than expected.

Grade: B+


SAN ANTONIO SPURS
Round 1: None
Round 2: DeJuan Blair (37, from the Warriors and Suns), Jack McClinton (51, from the Hornets and Raptors), Nando De Colo (53, from the Rockets)

Comments: 26 teams passed on DeJuan Blair and that is simply silly. The Spurs however got a far better player and person than they could have dreamed of, and now one of the best front court options in the class has a hit list of teams he plans to absolutely hammer when he sees them. Mark down this date: Sunday, July 12 – The Spurs first summer league game is scheduled for 1pm versus the Hornets – DeJuan Blair is going to have a monster game. The fact that the Spurs got a first round talent at 37, along with Jack McClinton and Nando De Colo the Spurs finished off a busy week of moves and have radically improved themselves. Clearly the Spurs had one of the best drafts getting a quality talent like Blair so low and he solves their biggest need and could start right away.

Grade: A-


TORONTO RAPTORS
Round 1: DeMar DeRozan (9)
Round 2: None

Comments: The Raptors addressed their biggest need with the best option available. DeMar DeRozan will solve a ton of issues. The big question is will he be ready to contribute right away, that's something the Raptors will have to fast track because this pick might scare away free agent two-guards.

Grade: B+


UTAH JAZZ
Round 1: Eric Maynor (20)
Round 2: Goran Suton (50)

Comments: The Jazz pick up a quality reserve guard in Maynor and another big body in Suton. It's unlike Suton plays in Utah this year, but he'll be an interesting option for the future. Maynor is a proven NBA ready guard and he'll provide a nice change of pace for the Jazz. Maynor may not see a ton of minutes but with Deron Williams' size the Jazz can now go small and really kill some teams with both guards on the floor. Solid pick up for Utah.

Grade: B


WASHINGTON WIZARDS
Round 1: None
Round 2: None

Comments: The Wizards traded out of this draft picking up Mike Miller and Randy Foye – both are far better additions than anything the team would have gotten with picks and now if healthy the Wizards are a far more respectable team. Flip Saunders has the horses, now what is he going to do with them?

Grade: INC – did not participate in the draft.

Email to a friend
Email to a friend Print Version
Print version Deliscious
del.icio.us Digg This
Digg this

About the Author: STEVE KYLER
Steve Kyler is the Editor and Publisher of HOOPSWORLD. Steve is a life-long basketball fan that started covering the NBA from Orlando in 1998, but has been a huge follower of the game since the mid-80’s. Steve is also an on-air radio personality in Tampa for ESPN radio and appears on dozens of radio shows across the country each week. Steve is an active member of the Professional Basketball Writers Association and is passionately involved in the development of new writers and sports personalities. Steve does not have a favorite team per se, but does root for the underdog in almost every situation. You can reach Steve directly at skyler@hoopsworld.com

Comments (38 posted) Post your comment
Please be respectful of the writers in your comments or they will be removed
posted By jlm, 27 June 2009 12:33:11 PM
hear ye your wrong abut pacers them dids grate hansbrodeng will be grate hims good your good write beleve me but dang your wrong on this
posted By hmm.., 27 June 2009 12:40:15 PM
Portland's goal wasn't to come away with 2 solid players. Portland's goal was to cut guaranteed salary for the upcoming free agent market, which they did. Pendergraph will probably make the team and be a decent backup PF (a position Portland desperately needs), or be dealt in one of the offseason trades Portland is going to make. Cunningham is probably gone, unless Outlaw is dealt with someone else in a 2 for 1. Mills will be an NBDL or Euro player this year. Claver is a safe pick to stay overseas and not count against the cap this year. It kills me how you guys fail to look at every angle on these things. It was an addition by subtraction draft for Portland. At worst I'd give them an incomplete. Just a suggestion for next year, you guys at HW might want to write this thing as a colaberation, instead of one guy's opinion. Personally, I'd enjoy a good back and forth between all you guys about this kind of stuff.
posted By What?, 27 June 2009 12:47:57 PM
D-. Do you guys even pay attention or do you just take a glance and throw out the first thing out of your mouths. Yes, Portland didn't get anyone sexy but they did exactly what they wanted. They didn't get younger and found more money for free agency. Look at the big picture. They don't have to sign any of those players if they don't want.
posted By Col3vision..., 27 June 2009 1:13:52 PM
How does Henderson make Wallace expendable in charlotte? If Anything they Should complement each other... Henderson is only 6'4'' unless you mean by being able or eventually being able to create his own shot??? If Derrick Brown reaches his potential he could possibly replace wallace and thats a PROBALY????
posted By WillieT, 27 June 2009 1:28:48 PM
Didn't the Nuggets ship the pick they got from MJ in Charlotte? You have them sending a NO pick. I believe it is lottery protected next year but unprotected the next. Don't have time to research, as I am not paid to write basketball articles.
posted By Col3vision, 27 June 2009 1:34:15 PM
Part 2... Man you got to give props when props are due... Your comments make me wonder? The Bobcats definantly got one player that will be a starter one day and in the 2nd round (Brown) was expected to go in the 1st round based off feed back after his workouts He has a place in the nba...But yet you comment that the bucks got 2 good players!!! not by far... I believe jennings will be entertaining for years to come but Meeks??? he's a reach no matter what...his basketball IQ is not THAT high...I live in KY and watched him play numerous times... His defense is suspect considering his physical abilities....which is the reason he was able to score in bunches... he was usually the fastest player on the court.... How do the Wolves Recieve an "C". Lets look at the facts... how man rookies can you bring to a team knowing that not all rookies including high draft picks are not guarenteed to reach potential. And after the 2's that were considered options were snagged of the board. If Anything the future trade of Rubio's rights will determine the sucess of their drafts... And since when does a starting point who is proven leader cause a team to get a "C" If the Point Of the Draft Is To Infuse Talent by taking the beast prospects availible????? they should atleadt get an "B: if Not an "A" especially after saying that Hansbrough wasnt the best player on the board...SO!!!! Building teams require players like hansbrough and the pacers cant afford to have any players with behavior problems no matter how talented....
posted By Col3vision, 27 June 2009 1:35:41 PM
@willie thats correct it came from charlotte
posted By Steve Kyler, 27 June 2009 2:22:51 PM
OK... one at a time - seriously, are you trying to defend the Blazers draft by saying we ended up with Pendergraph, Cunningham and Mills - to save money?... come on, there were better players than those three guys that would have not the Blazers a penny more... As for Charlotte and Gerald Wallace - Henderson is an impact player, who along with Boris Diaw and Raja bell, give the cats enough offensive firepower to move Wallace, a player they have wanted to move for a while... Look at the stats of each player Henderson - 45% from the field, 33.6% from 3point range is 6'5 and 215lbs..... Wallace is - 48% from the field, 29.8% from 3 point range is 6'7 and 220lbs.... Henderson can easily play the 3 spot in Charlotte
posted By Steve Kyler, 27 June 2009 2:27:01 PM
The Wolves got a C because they screwed themselves by taking both Rubio and Flynn... until thats resolved, neither player wants to be there - Flynn is handling it better, but neither guy was happy about the double selection.... Jennings may be good, or he may be another player that Scott Skiles ruins... I think Meeks could be a great pick up in Milwaukee especially considering who he has around him.
posted By Col3vision, 27 June 2009 2:34:58 PM
Did you just compare college stats to pro stats???Wallace is covered by the opposing teams top perimeter defender without a post presence. Henderson Was Brought in to replace bell (33 years old) eventually...felton will not be a bobcat longer than dj... that would be an extremely small line up
posted By Steve Kyler, 27 June 2009 3:17:57 PM
No... I secretly hit Gerald Henderson's pro stats because they did not fit my argument... until he plays, he only has college stats... lets talk again after summer league or after Charlotte trades Gerald Wallace and if you beleive for a minute that Charlotte is thinking about anything beyond the 2009-2010 season your not paying attention... this team is for sale, and you can not sell a team with long term obligations like Wallace's contract.
posted By Ripcity4life, 27 June 2009 3:25:39 PM
You know that draft grade for the Blazers who cares what a 2 bit no account writer who has no clue what they were trying to get done for the day. Just because the Blazers did not make half a dozen moves or draft up to get another young player then draft was a failure. There target is in Free agency and/or a Trade. If the Blazers strike out in Free agency then maybe i can see a low grade but this is only phase one of a very young offseason. Also Kyler who the heck are you to question KP when he has been pretty dang good in the 3 previous drafts. I know this post MIGHT not stay up long as i am not being respectful of him but he has not EARNED the respect unlike KP and his body of work in the draft.
posted By Steve from oz..., 27 June 2009 3:35:22 PM
Steve Kyler...You gave the Lakers a bad grade but failed to mention a couple of points..Pick 29 was sold for 3mill to the Knicks.Then Patrick Beverly was sold to the Heat for a further 1.5mill..The last time i checked Mitch made 4.5mill and now has 4.5mill to spend on Ariza,Odom and Brown..Thats an A not a D..But maybe you still have a bitter taste left from the finals.
posted By Col3vision, 27 June 2009 3:59:53 PM
Ha...funny... I disagree wallace will complete the season as a bobcat...But everything else You Said I agree...The Team Is for sale and they probaly will cut back i just dont think its wallace it will be some felton or oak... For the record... I follow alot of your articles...im not on here to start wars....just a little arguing...I respect your opinion and even more because you defend it... sorry if I made you mad dude
posted By Col3vision, 27 June 2009 4:04:55 PM
Last comment... MIcheal has interest in the team..if so there wont be huge cut backs....also The stat comparison was a bit of a cheap shot... with three trades during the season plus some serious injuries... Come on mr tyler? Much respect though...
posted By PY, 27 June 2009 4:59:24 PM
WOW, You Portland fans sure get bent out of shape when you get a little criticism. I do not believe the Blazers moved up to draft Victor Claver, they wanted someone else, that player was gone so they picked Claver. He's talented and will play overseas for a year or two and that saves a few bucks. Believe me, I get it, no problem, smart move. But for me it was inexcusable to pass on Dejuan Blair in the secord round. Say what you want, but none of those second rounders are getting guaranteed contracts so why not get the best talent. You guys seriously can't be saying you'd rather take a chance on Dante Cunningham than Dejuan Blair or even Sam Young. If the rumors are true that they're going after Trevor Ariza than they should have picked up the "ariza-like" Young. Those were missed opportunities. Trading for Pendergraph was a good move but it was no masterstroke, everyone and their mama knew Sergio Rodrigues wasn't going to be a Blazer pass draft night. He almost had to be traded and you guys want to give KP credit for doing what he was suppose to do? The Blazers have had great drafts the past few years, it's ok that this one isn't so great. You can't win them all.
posted By Col3vision, 27 June 2009 5:00:11 PM
Kyler
posted By yours truly, 27 June 2009 6:02:02 PM
2.1 Last 5 Games Date Opp Min FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST PF ST TO BS PTS 03/21 IND 25:28 1-4 0-1 1-2 2 1 3 5 4 0 4 1 3 03/25 @ WAS 42:51 8-16 0-2 5-9 5 6 11 4 2 2 3 3 21 03/27 @ PHI 38:56 6-9 0-2 2-4 3 8 11 1 4 1 1 0 14 03/28 NYK 42:57 7-12 1-2 8-9 1 8 9 8 4 2 1 3 23 03/31 LAL 40:20 10-16 0-2 1-2 1 12 13 4 1 0 0 5 21
posted By hmmm..., 27 June 2009 6:18:12 PM
I think all you idiots (Kyler included) bashing the Blazer fans here need to go back to my original comment and read it again. Then let's re-think your comments a bit. Cunningham won't stick, Pendergraph might but he's already being brought up in trade rumors, Pritchard didn't want to spend any guaranteed money on a first round pick this year (hence why Sergio wasn't used as part of a bigger deal in the first round), Portland real target is in FREE AGENCY! You tools that want to sit there and bash the Blazer faithful for sticking up for their team can suck it. Show some respect, and god forbid some intelligence, and you just might get the same in return.
posted By Steve from oz, 27 June 2009 6:24:02 PM
Steve Kyler...You gave Boston a B... Was that a joke?.
posted By jtest, 27 June 2009 7:31:24 PM
the knicks picked renoldo bolkman all over again!
posted By JH, 27 June 2009 7:37:45 PM
Just a little thing: you had the Nuggets not doing anything in the 2nd round but in fact they drafted Sergio Lull from Spain and sold his rights to Houston for $2.4million, aka, the first year of Chris Andersen's long term deal with us which will be announced shortly :).. not a bad 2nd round move if you ask me. You had the Thunder drafting Lull when it was my Nuggets.
posted By Leonard, 27 June 2009 8:22:05 PM
Why give the Lakers a D-? They would consider it an A, considering their objective was to raise cash to help sign Odom and Ariza (and Shannon Brown). They were able to sell the 29th pick for $3 million and the 42nd pick for $1.5 million (reportedly). The 59th pick is a player they can stash. Together with the cash raised, not having to sign a draft pick saves an additional $1.7 million (for a total net of $6.2 million). For their purposes, I would say that is an A. They couldn't draft anyone at 29 that would make their team. Now, they could stand to upgrade their bench at the guard positions, but they aren't going to do that in the draft.
posted By Dodo holiday, 27 June 2009 8:46:08 PM
Holiday. A pure pg. LOL. That's funny considering he didn't play pg in college or highschool. He has to prove he can play pg more then any other player in this draft
posted By PY, 27 June 2009 9:42:32 PM
@hmmm..., Sorry dude, you just love your team so much you'll believe anything. You don't want to face the fact that the Blazers didn't do well in the draft simple from the stand point of getting the best talent. Like Steve said, drafting better talent(Blair or Young) in the second round wouldn't have cost them any extra money then the players they drafted. Doesn't it make good sense to draft the best talent if it's not going to cost you nothing extra? Wouldn't Blair & Young be better trade bait than Cunningham & Mills, or you could just release them, no cost to you at all. That whole Free Agency thing you keep going on about has some truth to it but you're using it to defend KP and it don't fit. If they wanted to save money so badly why not do what the Lakers did, trade all your second rounders for cash and future considerations. Dude, it's ok, no one is bashing the Blazers, we're just telling you the truth and you don't want to hear it.
posted By PY, 27 June 2009 10:18:26 PM
Also, I think the Lakers deserve a C+ simply because they did what they intended to do and the players they drafted, and then drafted were pretty good prospects. Personally, I understand what they did and why, but I think they may regret it. This season showed that they need PG help, both starting & backup. Farmer and Sasha were shacky most of the year and Fisher got one more left(if that). Patrick Beverley & Toney Douglas could have been of some help. Playing in the triangle offense, the Lakers don't need a traditional PG. Play D and hit the open jumper, the rest is gravy. But what's done is done now.
posted By Steve Kyler, 28 June 2009 6:25:26 AM
Again - The Lakers could have acquired better assets and achieved the same goal... I am not saying getting cash was not important, what I am saying is getting cash does not improve your team - if they go on to use that cash to better the team then that is something, but today we don;t know that... you can only grade on whats been done, not on intent... On Boston, they got an impact 25 point per game scorer with the 58th pick - they got a guy that could arguably play for them at 58, and he's not a project scrub that might not see time - thats what this process is about... Corrected the Nuggets/Llull thing.
posted By Steve Kyler, 28 June 2009 6:31:41 AM
ANd as I stated at the top of this - my grades are based on three items, and three items alone. whether a team #1 - improved, #2 - addressed real and pressing needs and #3 - could have taken a better option on the board... future intent does not factor into grading an action today... last year the Denver Nuggets dumped Marcus Camby and gained a $10 million trade exception - at the time the move was framed as "wait until they use the exception be fore you judge them" - they never used it... The Lakers got $3 million in cash, great - lets see if they use it... Portland could have picked up three significantly better prospects in this draft - so Blazers fans will except less than stellar talent because of future cap room - great lets see what they do with it and these players... The draft is simply one part of the off-season, lets see if the Lakers and Blazers can earn better grades in free agency and trades.... the goal in the draft is to improve your team, address real and pressing needs and select the best future assets available... someone explain how the Lakers and the Blazers did that - leave free agency and the future to the side, because thats not what we're grading. We are grading the actions from Thursday night.
posted By Blazer Homer, 28 June 2009 9:28:41 AM
OK, I wanted to preface this by saying that I am a huge Blazer fan and do feel that a D- was a little harsh BUT... I am also realistic and agree with all of the points that you made. I think we were targeting someone else with the 22nd pick and then when they were gone we just said that Claver was who we wanted all along. I really think Claver would have been available at 24 so it made no sense to trade with Dallas to move up. I however do think that Claver is eventually going to be a better pro then Cassipi is. Passing on Blair though frustrated the heck out of me. I was screaming at the TV each time they didn't call his name. However, every other team in the league also passed on Blair so it kind of leads me to believe that we may not have the full story on him. In any case, it seems a little harsh to downgrade Portland for not picking Blair when every other team did as well. I know we were looking for a banger PF and Blair fit that role perfectly but Pendergraph and Cunningham also are solid players. I tend to disagree with you though on picking up Patty Mills with the #55. Mills is a baller and a steal at that position in the draft. With losing Sergio, he is a perfect fit to come in and fill the 3rd PG position. So... I would tend to give my Blazers a C- maybe even a C. They did not take in any guaranteed rookie contracts that would affect their salary cap this summer and they collected a few more pieces that could be worthwhile in the future. Not great BUT not terrible either. Thanks for the time and GO BLAZERS!!!
posted By Steve Kyler, 28 June 2009 11:06:37 AM
Again... grades are based on #1 - did you improve your team? - #2 - Did you address a real need - #3 - did you get the best asset on the board... Portland did none of these.
posted By Leonard, 28 June 2009 11:27:43 AM
Steve ... I have to admit I went straight to the grades and submitted my comment ... not noticing your grading criteria. I guess if there is a future article "Grading the Off-season", then the point on the Lakers (and others on Portland, etc.) would be more relevant. Regarding Blair, I guess just about every team in the league passed on him, so the jury is out on how much of a steal that is for the Spurs. But, they had nothing to lose at that point of the draft.
posted By Steve Kyler, 28 June 2009 1:22:58 PM
Exactly... we'll grade the entire free agency and then the off-season as a whole... the goal of every team in the draft should be to collect the best assets - either assets that fill needs... assets that can be used in trades later... or assets that enhance the value of the team - some teams did not do that in the draft - they did what I would call short selling their future... The Suns did this for a few years - they just didn't participate, then their cupboards went bare... I'll give the Blazers the benefit of the doubt, about the big picture but as I said, you could have gotten a better prospect than Victor Claver at 22... there were better guys in the 2nd round that will have more value in trade or more value in the future.
posted By PY, 28 June 2009 1:39:29 PM
Yeah, I guess if you look at it by the 3 points Steve gave and keep all future considerations out of it, then pretty much all of the grades are close or on the money.
posted By ELO, 29 June 2009 3:02:13 AM
Steve, any speculation on who exactly the Blazers might have been targeting with the 22? The evidence seems to point to Ty Lawson
posted By pete, 29 June 2009 12:04:18 PM
Honestly I kind of thought that Claver was plan B as well. I think at 22 they were looking at Hansbrough, Collison, Maynor, and Lawson to fall. New Orleans screwed the pooch for Portland by taking Collison.
posted By Diggity Dave, 29 June 2009 12:16:02 PM
Obviously you know nothing about Patrick Beverely. Were the Heat really going to pull an A+ with the 42nd and 60th picks? Be real. Beverely will turn out to be a hidden gem in this draft, mostly because he was stashed away in the Ukraine after being caught cheating on a term paper. Do your homework. Pun intended.
posted By Steve Kyler, 29 June 2009 3:07:41 PM
I have done my home work, apparently you have not... Beverly is a marginal prospect at best, he was racked as the 51st best prospect by DraftExpress and he played in Ukraine last year and had some solid numbers 0 16 points and 7 rebounds per game. That does not change the fact there were better more proven talents on the board
posted By embarressed, 29 June 2009 4:11:41 PM
Blazers did fine. Did you see the tape of Claver? Kid looks like a NBA player. Blazers are probably the only team that can stash a first round talent because they are stacked with players. You guys at hoopsworld don't understand how to build and keep a team. The Lakers sold their pick for 3 million and got a future 2nd. The 29th pick makes roughly $850,000. That would double because the Lakers are in the "luxury tax" So the Lakers save 1.7 mill and pocket 3 mill for a player that they felt wouldn't play. Add the fact they got a second round pick. (I don't recall that a team surrendered a pick in addition to 3 million before. Lakers did well! Blazers did well. Hoopsworld writers need to try to project the future a little rather than saying what just happened. Alot of the readers have a better feel than the experts. Hey Steve, Did Kerr look you in your eyes when he said they were going to keep their team intact? C'mon Step up!



Checkout HOOPSWORLD on


NBA
NBA Rumors
NBA Salaries
NBA Newswire
NBA Transactions
NBA Trade History
NBA Stats
NBA Standings
NBA Teams
NBA Chats
NCAA BASKETBALL
NCAA Scores
NCAA Stats
NCAA Newswire
NCAA Standings
NBA DRAFT
Top 100 Prospects
Mock Draft
Owed Draft Picks
ABOUT THE SITE
RSS Feeds
Contact Us
Privacy Policy
Advertise With Us
Site Map
 

 


 
USA Today 
NBA Salaries  
NBA Teams  

Bookmark and Share

Email to a friend
Email to a friend
Print Version
Print version
Deliscious
del.icio.us
Digg This
Digg this
DID YOU ENJOY THIS ARTICLE

Avg Rating 3.0/5
 (total 2 votes)



TOP STORIES







PRIVACY POLICY | TERMS AND CONDITIONS | CONTACT US | SITE MAP | RSS FEEDS
AmericanEagle.com
© 2007 Fantasy Sports Ventures