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posted By Joe Bianchi, 23 July 2009 9:15:03 AM
This is to the owner of the L.A Lakers,it's in your best interest of the team to sign Lamar Odom,so you can win another ring.If you don't sign him you will regret it for a long time.P.S Contract or Championship?
posted By Steve Kyler, 23 July 2009 9:17:53 AM
Is mortgaging the future of the team worth one more ring?...
posted By Chris, 23 July 2009 9:22:06 AM
Steve: do you really think bringing in odom is mortgaging the future? If you bring him back you have 4 legitimate shots to win a title with that core and after that a lot of contracts come off the books in which LA can re-load. This move puts LA in the top 5 for the next 4 years, if i'm LA i do it
posted By Steve Kyler, 23 July 2009 9:34:21 AM
I think a 4th year on a player over 30 is dangerous... your likely going to pay him to sit through an injury... I wouldn't risk a huge luxury tax bill on Lamar Odom at 34... keep in mind the Lakers will pay $20-$25 million in Luxury tax this year - north of $30 million next year and under a new CBA, they could be paying 40 million or more in taxes, if they are not smart about how they structure things... I'd go three years without blinking... that fourth year would have to have a games played clause or something that protects me from a huge injury...
posted By PRNSTR910, 23 July 2009 9:38:56 AM
The actual "dunk" was not the issue. The issue was and is Lebron's continued display of "---assness". This event on the heels of him walking off the court and hiding the the media he soo loves after the Celtics series is just further proof that Lebron is a "---". There really is no other word for it.
posted By Rob, 23 July 2009 9:56:52 AM
Steve, do you really think a rare chance for a title isn't worth the risk of an extra year of paying the tax and the potential injury? It's not like the Lakers don't make enough money to cover the tax anyways and while they have won a lot of titles and might be able to take them for granted there are a lot of teams and cities that would gladly take that risk if it came with having the luxury of having 3 productive bigs like the Lakers had and would have if they resign Odom.
posted By Rob, 23 July 2009 9:59:19 AM
PRNSTR910, I think part of Steve's point in the column is that this might have all been a marketing gimmick by Nike and Lebron for his camp and themselves. If they don't confiscate the video this story gets a little play for the dunk and not much more. With the way they treated it, it gets some negative press for them but a lot of press all the same.
posted By w0w, 23 July 2009 10:07:54 AM
I co-sign with PRN NIKE made it a big deaL!! Of course if they hid some video of Bron gettin smashed on you wanna see it. It was somewhat anti-climatic but it was pretty nasty. Again, who is Crawford compared to Bron??? Cmon, Steve, maybe your gettin old. Imagine what it felt like for that kid. Dunked on the EFFIN MVP of the NBA! And only Frederic Weis has ever been Frederic Weis'd you cant compare any dunk(cauz none compare..) to that...
posted By Laker Lifer, 23 July 2009 10:11:08 AM
We’re talking about the difference of $4-$6 million in comparison to being “one of the favorites next year” or “a potential dynasty.” Hence, it’s worth it to pay Lamar. And don’t give me that luxury tax BS. Fisher, Ammo, Farmar, Powell, Mbenga are all off the books this year. Vujacic is gone next year. Lakers should be in much better shape financially come Lamar year #4. Plus, Buss will make a TON in all those extra playoff games by that time. 4 at $36 or 4 at $40 with a buyout at $34 is absolutely FAIR for both sides. Let’s do it!!!
posted By Steve Kyler, 23 July 2009 10:33:16 AM
Two points - lets be clear - PAY LAMAR!!! - what I am saying is I can understand why the Lakers are playing tough, and if I am Mitch I push for a games played clause in year 3... Lamar plays in 50 or more games his 4th year gets guaranteed, that just insures your investing in a chance to win championships not paying Lamar $10 million to nurse a knee injury... 2nd - The lakers will have dollars drop off the cap, but the rate in whihc Andrew's contract is going up, the fact your gonna have to sign Kobe and Pau Gasol in two years means you have to be smart especially knowing the cap and the salary system are going backwards... you don't want a $30-$40 tax bill and have two players injured and be a lottery team.
posted By Jason Fleming, 23 July 2009 10:36:00 AM
And on top of that, all those guys mentioned as coming off - Farmar, Sasha, etc - you have to replace those players to field a team, and you have to pay them. You can't replace them all with minimum deals, though perhaps if you do that around Kobe, Pau, Bynum, Ron, and Lamar that's all you need. Oh yeah, and I co-sign with Steve - PAY LAMAR.
posted By Steve Kyler, 23 July 2009 10:40:38 AM
On the LeBron dunk stuff... again, I was unimpressed by the dunk, it wasn't like the Vince Carter dunk over him kind of thing... this was a normal dunk in a game, and LeBron was near him... its not like he broke LBJ down off the dribble and crammed on him... it was a nice play, it made Jordan Crawford a celebrity and I am sure it was a moment for him... but again A LOT more hype than substance - who wants to bet what shoe company Jordan Crawford signs with when he leaves Xaiver for the pros?
posted By No Blood No Foul, 23 July 2009 10:44:58 AM
Who wants to bet that Larry Bird wishes he had a do-over with Tinsley? Denver ALMOST traded Steven Hunter and Chucky Atkins for Tinsley and a draft pick, but the deal wasn't quite good enough so Denver called Detroit about Billups...and we all know what happened next. If Indiana had offered an extra draft pick to Denver (or maybe one without lottery protection), Indiana wouldn't be paying Tinsley $10.7 million to play somewhere else. Instead, they'd be sitting on two expiring contracts. Bird's skills as a GM are less then exemplary - Indiana deserves better.
posted By No Blood No Foul, 23 July 2009 10:48:45 AM
This "pay Lamar" business is just dumb. The Lakers are offering Odom the best possible deal he can hope for. $30 million for 3 years + the likelihood he can play another year or two (or more) for the vet's minimum. That's financially identical to the deal that Miami offers (if not better if you consider Odom could get more than the minimum in years 4 and 5). The big difference with L.A. is that Odom can win a freaking championship, earn millions in endorsements, promote his movie career, etc. Why are Laker fans upset with Buss? Odom is the idiot here folks - no question.
posted By Steve Kyler, 23 July 2009 10:58:27 AM
Lets be clear - no one is earning a lot of money in endorsements... there is some change out there, but beyond the big boys the shoe money and the side stuff has dried up... unless your willing to do shopping mall openings and Bar Mitzvahs... whihc apparently is quite the money maker if your willing to hang with 13 years olds.
posted By Toolatecrew, 23 July 2009 11:36:30 AM
Another friggin Laker article.
posted By Chris, 23 July 2009 11:51:54 AM
4 years and 38 million for odom is what LA should do, give him his 10 per the next 3 seasons and just guarantee half for the 4th year, i think waltons and vujacics contracts are bad and that is what is constricting the Lakers, you think mitch wouldnt want to go back in time and give turiaf his money and let vujacic walk
posted By Mase, 23 July 2009 11:53:32 AM
Steve, where do you think Tinsley will end upp??
posted By Steve Kyler, 23 July 2009 11:54:45 AM
Toolate - as out resident grumpy old man... the article is in fact about the top story of the day... it also includes tidbits on the the 76ers.. Pacers... Knicks and leBron with a little Rubio sprinkled in for flavor... The AM report is supposed to highlite the news of the day... If the Lakers make news, they get the spot.
posted By Mark Cuban, 23 July 2009 7:03:40 PM
Hey, Buss, you worry about fiscal responsibility all you like! I'm more than willing to take Lamar and the next two championships off your conscious!!
posted By Mark Cuban, 23 July 2009 7:13:11 PM
conscience
posted By roch ny, 24 July 2009 7:24:16 PM
guys your missing the age point.lamar is 29 and will be 33 at end of contract,keeps himself in great shape and is not an hi-wire act like koby is. He is mostly an low to the ground finnese slasher with a little muscle mixed in.Give him
10mil for for years.Now a days 33 is not old for most nba players.Guys like koby who at 30 is going to get maxed out at 6 years for 20-25mil is more likely to get hurt at 31-32-33etc. with his high flying agressive style of play and he already has lost an 1/2
step and some of the explosive quickness and jumping ability.The lakers with this core has an 3-4 year window th get it done,and remember that sanantonio,dallas are old teams and many teams are very young and teams like
portland need to make moves to get more vet. help instead of sitting on their young potential so the window is there for 3-4 more titles ( not saying the will get them all) but its there.Also La.makes an ton of dollars from last 3 and next 4 deep runs in the playoffs and sold out arenas at home as well as at home, so pay the man as steve kyler says!!
Ps. Its not lamars fault he is the last one to sign and its not right to say he gets you deep into tax country. Koby gasol and the rest got you thre also. Keep up the good articles steve this is a great site despite all the stupid #### some posters put out there.
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