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By: Eric Pincus   Last Updated: 7/30/09 3:24 PM ET | 15061 times read
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Looking for the inside scoop on where Lamar Odom will play for next season?

You're not going to find it here.

Not much has changed since Lakers: Is Odom Ariza or Artest? almost two weeks ago. 

The Portland Trail Blazers have used their cap space elsewhere (Andre Miller).  The specifics of the Laker "four-year" offer were eventually verified (as suspected) to only include partial guarantee on the final year.

It's almost worth reposting the old article with a couple of edits and a new title.

At this point, the Lakers have lowered their offer (the true amount on the table isn't clear, is wildly rumored and not worth guessing at), making it difficult to gauge how much team owner Dr. Buss will pay to keep Lamar.

If Odom truly wanted to go to the Miami HEAT for less money, he'd have gone already.  The Lakers can pay him the most but are very cost conscious with the monster tax bill looming.

How will it end?  At this point . . . please just end, either way.

If Odom does stay, the Lakers return almost the same team as the one that won the title in June.  The lone change would be Ron Artest in for Trevor Ariza.

Artest is a bit of a wildcard but if Coach Phil Jackson can keep him focused, LA could be better than they were a year ago.  While Ariza's youth and athleticism will be missed, Artest may be better suited to guard the power small forwards in the league like Paul Pierce, LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony.

The only likely subtraction might be Sun Yue who has a $100,000 contract guarantee kick in on August 1st.  If he makes the opening night roster, his entire $736,420 salary is locked in.

General Manager Mitch Kupchak has indicated that he hopes to only carry the league minimum (13 players) this season.  With Odom back, that could leave Sun without a job.

On the other hand, the Lakers are said to be considering offering Shelden Williams a make-good contract (partially guaranteed), not as an Odom replacement but as a potential young big to bolster the bench.  Williams has never quite found a niche but he also hasn't had the opportunity to play in a systemized offense like Coach Krzyzewski runs at Duke.

If the Lakers do ink Shelden, he could be a surprise low-cost improvement for a team looking at a total payroll over $110 million (including luxury taxes).

Another camp invite will be (unofficially) Tony Gaffney who played on LA's summer league entry (Vegas: Gaffney Hoping for a Laker Camp Invite).

A source close to the team has indicated that the Lakers would prefer second-round draft pick Chinemelu Elonu to play overseas rather than face an uphill battle in training camp.  That's a decision that's up to the player, not the franchise. 

If he does come to camp, he'd be a long shot to make the team and the Lakers would ultimately lose his rights. 

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Kupchak might tinker with the roster with a few assets that might be attractive including Adam Morrison's expiring contract (coming off of a solid summer league).  A number of teams are interested in Jordan Farmar as well.

Should the Lakers make any moves, money may be the driving force although the team is still searching for an eventual Derek Fisher replacement (and Farmar may not be it).

If Odom leaves, the Lakers lose the heart of their bench, downgrading their chances to repeat.  Unless Andrew Bynum has a career year, LA could be vulnerable beyond their starting five.

It's not clear how Kupchak would replace Odom considering the only spending power he has left is the minimum exception.  One name that had surfaced was Joe Smith.

The Lakers won't open the door to a sign and trade, especially with the HEAT.  Once they make it possible for Odom to get paid elsewhere . . . LA loses what leverage it has in the negotiations.

It might take a wild trade to entice the Lakers to sign and trade, perhaps something like Jerryd Bayless and Joel Przybilla of the Portland Trail Blazers for Odom and Farmar . . . but that's not a rumor, that's just a writer living in fantasyland whilst waiting for the stalemate to end!

Typically the answer in these situations is to follow the money.  In most cases the player goes to the team offering the most money.  Based on that simple logic, the Lakers remain the favorite.

It's just taking way too long . . .

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About the Author: ERIC PINCUS
Eric Pincus is a member of the Professional Basketball Writers Association and has covered the NBA for HOOPSWORLD for five years, powering HOOPSWORLD.COM.

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posted By Leonard, 30 July 2009 8:17:06 AM
Good article - it puts things in perspective. I STILL think L.O. stays. As much as I couldn't bear the thought of him leaving a couple of weeks ago, it doesn't seem as terrible now, because if he leaves it's because he wanted to leave. He got a great offer (or offers) from the Lakers. On another note, and I know you made it up, but I would hope the Lakers wouldn't trade L.O. for Przybilla and Bayless!. Przybilla is solid ... I think Bayless isn't going to be any better than Farmar.
posted By CTran, 30 July 2009 8:48:40 AM
When you have a genius for an agent, this is where you find yourself. The team you want to stay with has lowered their offer because you and your agent played hard ball and talked with Dallas and Miami which only had the MLE to offer anyway, hence the genius. The agent is supposed to provide sound advices not idiotic ones. The really bad part is the genius still get paid regardless where LO signs, even though he just screwed his client royally. What a great job the genius has!!!
posted By jlm, 30 July 2009 9:08:58 AM
hear ye lakers need lo to win chamingchip hims good good write i had twins this mourneing one boy one girl much love piece out
posted By CTran, 30 July 2009 9:26:37 AM
Yes ... Odom surely wants the greatest amount of money for the greatest number of years (with player options not team options in latter years). Those aspects are more important to him than wins and championships, clearly. Perhaps at play too is a desire to get back to 35+ minutes per game and increasing his numbers. That's all fine, but it does go against how he presented himself and his desire to retire in L.A., etc. throughout the season, and what was supposedly most important to him, etc. Probably his agent was (is) exploring sign & trade possibilities to get a 5-year $40,45,50 million deal somewhere. Fortunately, the Lakers aren't entertaining that, apparently (as the article notes). Now, L.O. and his agent find themselves trying to get the Lakers to increase the offer (years) without any financial leverage ... just the leverage of possibly leaving for Miami. The Lakers don't really have any leverage either ... other than what they consider a better financial offer (and championship opportunity) than he can get anywhere else. As far as teammates go, he's wanted by both teams. So, both parties (L.O. and the Lakers) can wait and do nothing until either L.O. gives up and takes a contract he really doesn't want in Miami, or agrees to whatever the Lakers are offering now; or the Lakers budge and improve their offer to the point that L.O. accepts it. I think for him to go to Miami would take the Lakers to finally say "take it or leave it".
posted By E-ROC, 30 July 2009 9:27:30 AM
Hey Eric Pincus! Do you know if the Lakers have any interest in a tryout for Jonathan Bender? He's making a comeback. Bender left the league because of a degenerative knee.
posted By Leonard, 30 July 2009 9:27:54 AM
The post above was from me (inadvertently typed CTran in the Name box!) ... sorry ...
posted By jlm, 30 July 2009 9:33:17 AM
hear ye lenard its ok nowon is mad at you will all maik misteakes piece out
posted By CyberCosmiX, 30 July 2009 10:22:39 AM
Excellent article - as always Eric. Your superb understanding of NBA rules, nuances and the complicated spending rules always show. I'm glad you didn't report speculated numbers and rumors, that is what separates you from other writers and adds professionalism to your articles. With so much speculation going on with the Lamar/Lakers negotiations it is nice to get the real scoop here. I think that if the Lakers don't sign Lamar it would probably mean much of those L.O. end-of-game minutes would fall on Bynum's shoulders (as pointed out in the article that Bynum will need to step up). So Drew would be thrown into the fire big-time. One last thing, I think that most-likely if Lamar was going to leave to Miami that he probably would have already done so, I'm basing that on just a feeling, but neither side has really cried and whined to the press. It seems like an impasse that will get resolved when L.O. and his agent Schwartz decide that 'enough is enough' and call the Lakers and sit down to hammer something out, it's just a matter of time. L.O. & agent are just being very patient, but in the end it's all about positioning. Buss is the master poker-player and an excellent negotiator, lowering the offer will make it seem that when the time comes and they do sit down (hopefully!) simply getting back to the original offer the Lakers gave Lamar would be a victory for L.O., and the Lakers too.
posted By KB, 30 July 2009 10:52:26 AM
I want odom back but Bynum is set to make 12 million next season. Who would get more minutes? With odom we would be chasing after championships but would bynums develpment take a hit? Then what, would we be paying 12 million to a guy sitting on the bench the next three years?
posted By Eric Pincus, 30 July 2009 11:48:19 AM
Thanks for the comments - no word on Bender - EP
posted By Ved, 30 July 2009 11:59:08 AM
I don't understand what ODOM is thinking!!!! He's a tremendous basketball player that could go down as a legend, a huge part of the Lakers next championship run, or he can go to Miami be a five seed hang around for the next 5 years and retire. He's going to be 30 in november hes too young to sign for the MLE. LO sign the 3yr contract with LA then you can still get a 2yr 10 million dollar contract from the lakers or a another team. Mcdyess just signed for that and he's old. Hopefully ODOM does the right thing.
posted By B, 30 July 2009 12:01:29 PM
I am not convinced the Lakers would be that worse off without Odom. I think Bynum has a real chance to become a major contributor this year, and play big minutes. Plus Artest, due to his size (6-7, 260), can play some minutes at the four, with Luke getting a little more playing time at the 3 (or Kobe at the 3 with Sasha at the 2 if Sasha can remember how to play basketball). I also believe that Shannon Brown will improve his game this year (like Ariza last year), improving our bench play.
posted By LakersFan22, 30 July 2009 12:23:36 PM
Odoms agent wants Lamar to sign 5 years for $35 million cause he gets more money than the 3 years @ $27 million. The agent might not even be representing Lamar in 3 years. He's out for what he can get right now
posted By Tim, 30 July 2009 1:02:51 PM
Hey, this is from above: "If he [second-round draft pick Chinemelu Elonu] does come to camp, he'd be a long shot to make the team and the Lakers would ultimately lose his rights." Could somebody please explain how LA would lose his rights? Thanks!
posted By Jason Fleming, 30 July 2009 1:11:00 PM
@ Tim - I think this will explain it more eloquently than I would: http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q42
posted By Jason 323, 30 July 2009 3:31:55 PM
JORDi ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE!! Mitch needs to get rid of Adam Morrison and Sasha Vujacic.
posted By hahaallday, 30 July 2009 3:47:49 PM
Fakers got lucky last year most of the contending teams went down with injuries.....i doubt they make it out of the first round this year..orlando and boston are way better!! lakers suck!! L.O overpaid..Bynum Overpaid....Bryant Overpaid... Trade everybody except Artest!!
posted By GoLakers, 30 July 2009 4:23:04 PM
Hey hahaallday,...you are obviously a Laker hater. Your reference to Faker (that's Lakers). Who is the champ. Obviously not your team. Hahahahah
posted By Who are the CHAMPS?!!, 30 July 2009 9:34:06 PM
hahaallday, you're obviously a bum! And ran out of options as we knocked out all opponents to reign at the top!!!
posted By Busboys4me, 31 July 2009 2:39:49 AM
Odom signed with the Lakers!!! All this doesn't matter for the time being. The Lakers are the team to beat once again!!!
posted By Lakerfan, 2 August 2009 3:05:28 PM
Eric, now with Odom resigned and Sun released, can you expand further on possible roster moves? Is Gaffney only expected to be a part of their expanded training camp roster, or does he have a decent chance of making the final roster? Second, if, as you surmise, Morrison, Farmer, or even Vujacic are moved, are their positions likely to be filled, ala Sheldon Williams (minimum contract) or is the team more interested at this time in just lowering payroll? In the case of Farmer or Vujacic, would the team not want to start looking for an inexpensive third guard to begin grooming? Finally, Gaffney sounds like someone they might want to keep on the roster for awhile (a good candidate for the D-league?), but would they do that with a 13-man roster?
posted By Lakerfan, 3 August 2009 4:16:43 PM
Update: Sheldon Williams is reportedly ready to sign with Boston. The Laker scouts seem to have a pretty good eye for talent, so lets see how he does. Hopefully, he is not a factor should the two teams meet in the finals next June.



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